Make Bonus Cubing Easier

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Mohkha5737

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Yall need to make Bpot Cubing a little less stressful
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What kinda logic is it to think that cubing ONE equip over 5000 times STILL wont give you what youre looking for???????? WHO enjoys that? And now obviously were all in a position so deeep into cubing that its makes no sense to stop la? then 10000 tries later you may still NOT even have it. Heard too many player spend an unrealistic amount of time BPot Cubing. Its not normal.
 
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Mohkha5737

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You do realized they actually nerfed pot rates on this server to make it harder to get good pots.

It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't take hours to cube.
I deff agree with you. Its honestly taking away the motivational factor to even want to cube other equips! I enjoy Cubing, but lets be realistic here. Spending 3+ days cubing strictly on ONE equip is just nonsense. I get they want to nerf it to add time players need to sit there and cube to get better Pot. But cmon now 5,6,7,8,9, 10 thousand times isn't fair.
 
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ILoveMinari

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Agreed with this post.
I can't tell you how many times a good potential roll got ruined cause of DEF / Max MP / HP Recov / another line.
The worst part is sitting there for hours clicking and holding enter to get jebaited every few seconds on the rolls f4
"Just buy it then" isn't an option, especially with all the people hogging / raising the price to hell for 27% str bpot gear.

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As reference, it took me 3787 bpots to get ONE 27% bpot on earrings and it wasn't even a stat I needed.
4k bpots in still and still not a bpot I need for GSE
 

Mohkha5737

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Agreed with this post.
I can't tell you how many times a good potential roll got ruined cause of DEF / Max MP / HP Recov / another line.
"Just buy it then" isn't an option, especially with all the people hogging / raising the price to hell for 27% str bpot gear.
Thats where it puts all the end game players at such at an advantage. Which hey, Kudos to them but I've invested a lot of my own time and donations into creating my own fulfillment towards the game, not relying on others to make it happen for me! But it gets to a point where you've literally exhausted ALL of your Mesos/DP to continue to try and get what youre looking for. And again; this is only about ONE equip that takes this much time!

I also used 5920 Cubes to be exact on my RGR to only be at 18% stats Lolol.
 

Danxerd

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Amateur figures ... I spent 20k plus on 1 item still can’t get even 27% and I didn’t open posts like you all. Just accept to faith that RNG god is not with you. Stay calm and continue cubing if it is easy then it isn’t Aries anymore. Gl and stop whining
 

Mohkha5737

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Amateur figures ... I spent 20k plus on 1 item still can’t get even 27% and I didn’t open posts like you all. Just accept to faith that RNG god is not with you. Stay calm and continue cubing if it is easy then it isn’t Aries anymore. Gl and stop whining

LOL theres a difference between an addiction to keep going which you certainly have versus approaching the game logically! Anyways, I hope whatever faith you believe in pulls you thru to that 27%! GL !
 

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I agree with Danxerd. Even if it takes long to bpot cube, you get it if you're lucky, and that's why they are quite pricey. If they change the algorithm so that bpotting is easier, there will be huge crisis on the game economy, due to huge increase on 27% supply. Current system requires you to keep cubing until you get that 27% on your hand, either by purchasing a finished one, or cubing yourself. Once you get that 27%, you have gotten what most of people doesn't have. Imagine if 27% bpot lines are popular, and treated as same value as mpots. It will be too easy to get to mid/end-game.
 

Justaguy

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I agree with you to a certain degree; however..

What would be done with the individuals whom already spent a large portion of cubes, time, and money on these "legendary" and "god-tier" item(s) with the selected BPOTs that they wanted?

How would you go about compensation each individual on the server whom has spent Bpot cubes, and have paid a premium for these extremely sought after Bpot items?

There's a lot to do to this, and I don't believe any adjustment can be done without having to heavily impact the economy. I understand the frustration that you have with this, as do many of us, but you need to remember that we all have the same chance to obtain the Bpot; there's no advantage nor disadvantage among any players, It's solely upon your luck.
 

RaineSage

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I agree with Danxerd. Even if it takes long to bpot cube, you get it if you're lucky, and that's why they are quite pricey. If they change the algorithm so that bpotting is easier, there will be huge crisis on the game economy, due to huge increase on 27% supply. Current system requires you to keep cubing until you get that 27% on your hand, either by purchasing a finished one, or cubing yourself. Once you get that 27%, you have gotten what most of people doesn't have. Imagine if 27% bpot lines are popular, and treated as same value as mpots. It will be too easy to get to mid/end-game.

It would only be easy to hit late game because people would stop wasting their money on 27% bpot class gear. I have 87k stats clean and 8 of my gears aren't even 33/27.

The issue I have is that getting 24% bpot also costs way too much to get, and manually cubing takes hours. 3 of my gears still have 21% bpot. The highly moronic thing is that pboxing my other stuff is more efficient than recubing my 21%s for even just 24% bpot. Spending 9k for +15 att +13 stat is better than spending 3k + hours of my time for 21->24%
 
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Justaguy

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It would only be easy to hit late game because people would stop wasting their money on 27% bpot class gear. I have 87k stats clean and 8 of my gears aren't even 33/27.

The issue I have is that getting 24% bpot also costs way too much to get, and manually cubing takes hours. 3 of my gears still have 21% bpot. The highly moronic thing is that pboxing my other stuff is more efficient than recubing my 21%s for even just 24% bpot. Spending 9k for +15 att +13 stat is better than spending 3k + hours of my time for 21->24%

I respect that, and I see that there is an issue with Bpots, but no one is really giving a solution to the problem.

You have:

- Player(s) whom are spending thousands of cubes obtaining X% BPOT.
- Player(s) whom already spent thousands of cubes obtaining X% BPOT.
- Player(s) whom refuse to spend thousands of cubes obtaining X% BPOT.

All three of them need to be catered to.
 

RaineSage

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I respect that, and I see that there is an issue with Bpots, but no one is really giving a solution to the problem.

You have:

- Player(s) whom are spending thousands of cubes obtaining X% BPOT.
- Player(s) whom already spent thousands of cubes obtaining X% BPOT.
- Player(s) whom refuse to spend thousands of cubes obtaining X% BPOT.

All three of them need to be catered to.

What about the people who obtained bpots back when getting good bpots were easier.
You do realize they nerfed bpotting so you cannot get 3l anymore, and also nerfed the rate so trash lines show up more often. It used to be possible to get things like 3l att bpot but now its not.
Bpots should be unnerfed so 3l bpots are possible again at the minimum. Also I've just spent over 70 stacks of bpot cubes and only gotten 21% dex 1 time and did not get 24% dex at all on my cra top. How is that a reasonable rate to begin with?
 

Justaguy

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What about the people who obtained bpots back when getting good bpots were easier.
You do realize they nerfed bpotting so you cannot get 3l anymore, and also nerfed the rate so trash lines show up more often. It used to be possible to get things like 3l att bpot but now its not.
Bpots should be unnerfed so 3l bpots are possible again at the minimum. Also I've just spent over 70 stacks of bpot cubes and only gotten 21% dex 1 time and did not get 24% dex at all on my cra top. How is that a reasonable rate to begin with?

You answered my question, with another question.

You still didn't answer, nor add a solution to the problem at hand here. Unnerfing things doesn't solve anything other than making the game easier for those whom aren't as lucky, or don't have the resources to create their own items.

If you're unable to go with the risk of creating your own item, save up and buy a pre-made. You'll save anyways.
 

RaineSage

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You answered my question, with another question.

You still didn't answer, nor add a solution to the problem at hand here. Unnerfing things doesn't solve anything other than making the game easier for those whom aren't as lucky, or don't have the resources to create their own items.

If you're unable to go with the risk of creating your own item, save up and buy a pre-made. You'll save anyways.

Why do things always have to be harder for people who play later down the line? This is why most private servers that nerf things afterwards are just cancerous.

Not to mention most BIS items are straight up impossible now with the nerfs. It is literally impossible to cube 3l bpot att emblems or 3l crit gloves. Only people who play earlier in this server get access to those broken items?

Like I said there is a huge problem when cubing 24% bpot which is considered trash mid game gear is more expensive than pboxing gear when pboxing gear is supposed to be endgame.
 

DiggityDit

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But u need to remember that we all have the same chance to obtain the Bpot; there's no advantage nor disadvantage among any players, It's solely upon your luck.

I do suffer as well, buying 1k dp worth of bpot every few days just to cube a few of my equips. But I believe we stick to what we are now because everyone has the same chance of obtaining better bpot, as quoted.

Some said it was unfair for old players to have 3L prime line bpot equips, but if we make any changes (easier) to get 3L prime line, then isn't those whom spent effort and thousands in cubing a decent bpot now all gone unappreciated?
 

e900003

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how about implementing an auto cube function with the existing rates ? that way we can save on the time and the economy wont be affected (?)
Aries have cubing NPC in FM, but only for no have cubing UI.
about other, it already denied due to have some cube have own UI,
and Aries need have increase cubing rate for stats suggestion, not is auto cubing suggestion things.
 
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