Why did the economy deflate?

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iamambelieve

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Now everyone's scratching their head wondering why it deflated. Well here's my take. Since 2-3 patches ago, mp botters have flooded the server. They have remained uncountered to this day. The reason i bring this up is because mp is the lifeblood of the economy. There's more early-mid gamers than end gamers (vcube buyers) and so therefore mp takes precedence over dp.

My conclusion; botters have taken over the economy (and that includes dp market).
 

PinedeerisLove

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I agree.
The market is all about supply and demand.
Multiply the supply tenfold with MP and NX botters and have the demand remain somehow the same (or even have it decline because of the low rate of new players joining the server) and you got yourself a deflation.
From there it's just a snowball rolling down a snowy hill.
The prices of everything are decreasing in such a fast pace:
Arcane Droplets dropped from 750m each to around 400-450m.
Red Cube stacks dropped from 650ish to 400m as well.
And of course, DP are now 1:17-18.

I don't know what needs to be done in order to balance the market again because banning the botters in too hard. There are dozens upon dozens of botters in the game and they hide themselves well.
But I think closing the donation shop (on the website) for a short while can bring the ratio back up, without hurting the state of chances of new-mid game players to make progress.

I hope it fixes itself soon, or at least stop decreasing in such an alarmng pace.
I'm gonna hold onto the remain of my DP for now.
 

PinedeerisLove

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ALL THE PAY2WIN PLAYERS GETTING MAD ABOUT THE MARKET DEFLATING LOOOOL STAY MAD!!!!!
What the heck are you talking about?
I'm mad because botters are ruining the economy, and because of that my daily gains have become much lower.
My main source of income was selling arcane and stone origin droplets. By selling 3 arcane and 4 stone per day I made around 4.2b a day and now I make about half that amount.

And yeah, I sold something for 6k DP so now I'm pretty upset it went from being worth 21b each to being worth 17b each. That sums to a 24b deficit.

To be honest, I don't know why I bother responding to you. Your message clearly indicates you're not capable of having a civilized discussion.
 
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Emit

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What the heck are you talking about?
I'm mad because botters are ruining the economy, and because of that my daily gains have become much lower.
My main source of income was selling arcane and stone origin droplets. By selling 3 arcane and 4 stone per day I made around 4.2b a day and now I make about half that amount.

And yeah, I sold something for 6k DP so now I'm pretty upset it went from being worth 21b each to being worth 17b each. That sums to a 24b deficit.

To be honest, I don't know why I bother responding to you. Your message clearly indicates you're not capable of having a civilized discussion.
You say 4.2b a day... why not just farm mp and make that in an hour?
 

billywong105

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Could the GMs actually add in a Bot Tester per entry to the MP dungeons? I mean that'd be a hassle but sure it'd save the economy again.
 

Tsuha

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I agree.
The market is all about supply and demand.
Multiply the supply tenfold with MP and NX botters and have the demand remain somehow the same (or even have it decline because of the low rate of new players joining the server) and you got yourself a deflation.
From there it's just a snowball rolling down a snowy hill.
The prices of everything are decreasing in such a fast pace:
Arcane Droplets dropped from 750m each to around 400-450m.
Red Cube stacks dropped from 650ish to 400m as well.
And of course, DP are now 1:17-18.

I don't know what needs to be done in order to balance the market again because banning the botters in too hard. There are dozens upon dozens of botters in the game and they hide themselves well.
But I think closing the donation shop (on the website) for a short while can bring the ratio back up, without hurting the state of chances of new-mid game players to make progress.

I hope it fixes itself soon, or at least stop decreasing in such an alarmng pace.
I'm gonna hold onto the remain of my DP for now.

Honestly closing the donation won't fix the economy and what's worse? The owner give up a few days of donation just to fix the econ? Are you gonna fund the server? Furthermore DP is not the source of this Econ crisis.... SOOOOO MAYBE if you're gonna suggest something, be SMART enough to suggest something that is not self beneficial my dear mapler.

EDIT: And also everything deflated, which mean things you sell are cheaper and things you buy are also cheaper. Not much changes honestly
 

PinedeerisLove

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You say 4.2b a day... why not just farm mp and make that in an hour?
It just burns me out.
I used to do until my 2 familiars ran out of juice and then I just didn't wanna play anymore for the rest of the day.
When I work most of the day, I don't wanna spend an hour on MP and these runs take less than 3 minutes combined. (elucid and ewill)

Honestly closing the donation won't fix the economy and what's worse? The owner give up a few days of donation just to fix the econ? Are you gonna fund the server? Furthermore DP is not the source of this Econ crisis.... SOOOOO MAYBE if you're gonna suggest something, be SMART enough to suggest something that is not self beneficial my dear mapler.

EDIT: And also everything deflated, which mean things you sell are cheaper and things you buy are also cheaper. Not much changes honestly
Firstly, I believe so far people have donated enough to fund the server for its entire life time. In fact, I'm positive the admins are making a lot of money into their own pockets from this server. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about them making profit from this server. The admins and GMs invest their time working on this server just as I invest my time at my work. But I just don't think funds are a problem for the right now.

Second, if by "self beneficial" you meant "a lot of people in the mid-end game community" so yeah, I'm suggesting something self beneficial.
At that stage in the game you start trading with DPs and not with just mesos. So yeah, DPs have a high value for me, as I'm in that stage right now.
Also, think of the fact that there are people who buy DP with real currency. They are paying the same amount of money for the same amount of DP, only the DP are worth less than they used to.

But you're right, everything is deflated so in the end it doesn't matter.
 
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Emit

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It just burns me out.
I used to do until my 2 familiars ran out of juice and then I just didn't wanna play anymore for the rest of the day.
When I work most of the day, I don't wanna spend an hour on MP and these runs take less than 3 minutes combined. (elucid and ewill)


Firstly, I believe so far people have donated enough to fund the server for its entire life time. In fact, I'm positive the admins are making a lot of money into their own pockets from this server. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about them making profit from this server. The admins and GMs invest their time working on this server just as I invest my time at my work. But I just don't think funds are a problem for the right now.

Second, if by "self beneficial" you meant "a lot of people in the mid-end game community" so yeah, I'm suggesting something self beneficial.
At that stage in the game you start trading with DPs and not with just mesos. So yeah, DPs have a high value for me, as I'm in that stage right now.
Also, think of the fact that there are people who buy DP with real currency. They are paying the same amount of money for the same amount of DP, only the DP are worth less than they used to.

But you're right, everything is deflated so in the end it doesn't matter.
I feel you >.< fucking work, gym and then get like 5hours of free time I need to blend food, shower and personal time (aside from maple) so I'd rather do some fun stuff than grind haha
 
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frudmapler

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Aside from the prices dropping it makes it really hard to sell items. Before selling cubes was a matter of 10 mins maybe 15 on a slow day. Now add like 20 more if you can even sell them at all. There’s been days where I’d just grind for my NX, and then grind to complete a set of bpot cubes just to go in the market, mega phone them and not been able to sell them, having to call it quits before my last bit of NX runs out from buying smegas.
Items being cheaper doesn’t help either if there’s less money to buy stuff.
 
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PinedeerisLove

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Just have to wait and see if the prices rise back up.

/shrug
Not really a matter of if, becuase that's sure to happen someday. The question is how and when.

Could the GMs actually add in a Bot Tester per entry to the MP dungeons? I mean that'd be a hassle but sure it'd save the economy again.

That sounds like a good idea, hope they go with it. Maybe make it like every 10 entries because it's going to suck for players who genuinely grind MP.
However I think botters have found a way to get through the bot tester.
 
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Alex

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You guys are actually brain dead.

Prices are going back down to what the prices were MONTHS ago, what are you talking about?

Inflation was so bad at it was stuck at 1:21 for DP when it used to go for 1:8 or less, so where exactly is the problem?

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
 

RaineSage

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People who started playing in the summer no longer need to buy gears as they've all semi finished their gears and are sitting at like 40k stats and are just doing boss runs.

No demand for these items, prices just keep dropping.
 

Nekomaki

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Could the GMs actually add in a Bot Tester per entry to the MP dungeons? I mean that'd be a hassle but sure it'd save the economy again.

Something like this may work but overall:
-It'll reduce the amount of runs done in per hour, overall reducing the amount of MP coins that are farmable
-A bot test per entry is still something that can be automated, so once a decent algorithm to crack these bot tests are found, it'll be back to the same thing, thus really only hurting real users
 
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