Superscroll option on accessories equipment for Demon Avengers

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sigelf

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Hello, I main Demon Avenger, a class that benefits primarily from the stat HP. As a suggestion, I would like to have the Superscroll option for +601 HP to be added to accessories equipment which includes Shoulder, Earrings, Face, Eye, Rings, GSE, Pendents. Right now, the +601 HP option is only available for Leggings, Top, Hat, Belt, Shoes and Cape. Several reasons to why I think this is a good or a fair suggestion:

1. Superscrolls are newbie friendly. Compared to the alternative way of scrolling equipment which uses a combination of Miraculous Chaos Scrolls, Chaos Scroll of Goodness, Shield Scroll and Innocence Scroll (which already might be too much for newbies to comprehend), Superscrolls are superior in nearly every aspect. Superscrolls require less funding, they guarantee to increase stats, they are simpler to use, and often provides better outcomes.

2. There are Superscroll options for LUK, STR, INT and DEX in the accessories equipment scrolling menu, but there are none for HP. I'm curious and would like to hear as to why this is the case.

3. Not being able to Superscroll for HP on accessories limits Demon Avenger's ability to choose equipment (especially Best in Slot equipment). Aside from HP, Demon Avengers also benefit from Attack Power. Since there are no Superscroll option to increase HP on accessories, for Demon Avengers to gain damage on accessories, you would have to rely on the stat Attack Power. An example:
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Sweetwater Monocle and Sweetwater Tattoo, two of the widely used accessories that is considered to be Best in Slot. Both items does not have any base Attack Power stat present in them. In order to get Attack Power onto these items, you would have to use a scroll which gives +1 Attack Power with a chance of destruction upon failure, this already means you are required to use a protection scroll to prevent that destruction. Once you have applied and wasted an upgrade slot for the +1 Attack Power, you now need to use Chaos Scrolls to further increase the Attack Power. If you are unlucky and happens to get a negative stat from the Chaos Scroll or is unsatisfied with the increased amount, you would have to use Innocence Scroll and start all over again at step 1. This is too inefficient, so most Demon Avengers would have to stay away from Sweetwater accessories and turn to Onyx Bubble Gum or Boss Accessories because it's cheaper to obtain and has preset of base Attack Power as well as set bonus, although they are not Best in Slot and most likely won't get 25* from the incoming update.

4. Using donor slot is a pain in the butt for non-Gollux accessories for Demon Avengers! Imagine adding 1 extra upgrade slot using donor points in hope to increase the Attack Power of your accessories further, but Chaos Scrolls decides to give you +0 ATT or worse - ATT. This is a very expensive and demanding process requiring you to use innocence scroll for every inadequate outcome. 1 Superscroll for +601 HP is equivalent to approximately 4 Attack Power for my Demon Avenger, the chances of me landing +4 Attack Power consecutively on Chaos Scrolls for 7 times and +7 more from donor slots is near impossible without the use of Incredible Chaos Scroll of Goodness (doesn't exist in AriesMS), and this is just so that it matches with Superscrolls increase stat value. What a bargain! This issue would be resolved with Superscrolls, as they guarantee for an increase to the desired stat of your equipment.

TL;DR: Add Superscroll option for HP to accessories equipment because it's not fair
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Poro

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Compared to the alternative way of scrolling equipment which uses a combination of Miraculous Chaos Scrolls, Chaos Scroll of Goodness, Shield Scroll and Innocence Scroll (which already might be too much for newbies to comprehend), Superscrolls are superior in nearly every aspect.

Your note in the parenthesis seems to imply that it is hard for new players to understand that some scrolls add or take away random amounts of stat, another scroll protects from scrolls consuming a slot, and a scroll that resets an item to base stats. I find this hard to believe when its written literally on the fucking tooltip. As for them being the superior option for scrolling, that (in my opinion) is the reason why the economy is shit in the first place and if anything I think that should be addressed in the future.

3. Not being able to Superscroll for HP on accessories limits Demon Avenger's ability to choose equipment (especially Best in Slot equipment). Aside from HP, Demon Avengers also benefit from Attack Power.

Not being able to Super HP on accessories does not limit DA's ability to use BiS equips, it merely makes it more difficult to do so. It is your choice to choose to not pursue what would be "Best in Slot"

In order to get Attack Power onto these items, you would have to use a scroll which gives +1 Attack Power with a chance of destruction upon failure, this already means you are required to use a protection scroll to prevent that destruction.

Worthy to note the boom chance is 10% which can be completely negated with max diligence level or paragon 40 scrolling bonus.

4. Using donor slot is a pain in the butt for non-Gollux accessories for Demon Avengers! Imagine adding 1 extra upgrade slot using donor points in hope to increase the Attack Power of your accessories further, but Chaos Scrolls decides to give you +0 ATT or worse - ATT. This is a very expensive and demanding process requiring you to use innocence scroll for every inadequate outcome.

If this is truly an issue, then why don't we look at the class with the most prevalent issue then. Xenon has no access to easy scrolls that give all stat, they must mchaos/cog or distribute super scrolls extremely sub-optimally across all equips. When they do actually try to prime their equips, they must Shield, Protect, and then still risk a 50/60% pass rate on an extremely valuable scroll. Compared to what Xenon's have to go through in order to get the equivalent of a prime, I believe DA has it way easier.

I am also going to point out that DA super scrolls are the ONLY ones that exceed the intervals between scroll chance rates. While normal stat trace scrolls go from +3/4/7/9, DA's HP ones goes from +210/320/450/601 with a significant jump between the Super Scroll variant and the 30% trace. If anything, DA super scroll should be fixed to add 580 instead to bring it more in line with the other super scrolls if this is implemented.

TL;DR: Stop Crying, your supers are already stronger than others, Xenon is a class with worse issues than yours, git gud, don't project your ignorance of scrolls or lack of ability to read onto new players
 
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Pretty sure this was brought up on the old forums and the issue simply lies within the fact that there are no super scroll for hp equivalent for the equips you mentioned.

Also pretty sure you don't run sweetwaters on demon avenger, go for the boss set instead (black bean mark and condensed power crystal) since you can't get Tier 151+ pots for hp.
 

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1. Hello, my definition of comprehend isn't about understanding how to scroll, but having the funding to do so. My definition of newbie = new players to AriesMS, not MapleStory in general.

2. Yes it does makes it difficult, not limit our choice, good nit pick. I'll have that changed.

3. We're not talking about Xexon, we're talking about Demon Avengers. If Xexon thinks it's hard for them, they're free to add suggestion right?

4. How am I crying ? If your talking about my TD;LR: that was written in a jokingly manner.
 

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Add on, if the Superscrolls for HP are overtuned like you said, how about reducing the value from the orginal 601 HP for accessories to around 500 HP so it's "fair"? Btw you blocked me on discord when I just wanted to discuss about this. Nani?

Of course if there are technical issues to adding Superscroll HP option for accessories then too bad for DAs I guess.
 
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Shaun

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Add on, if the Superscrolls for HP are overtuned like you said, how about reducing the value from the orginal 601 HP for accessories to around 500 HP so it's "fair"? Btw you blocked me on discord when I just wanted to discuss about this. Nani?

Of course if there are technical issues to adding Superscroll HP option for accessories then too bad for DAs I guess.
if the scroll doesnt exist and u basically want a custom scroll made, i can already tell you this'll get denied.
 
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