GPQ Rewards Revamp Thread

Eatos

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Preface
Hey all! In an effort to provide more alternatives to Monster Park and Daily Party Quests, I would like to suggest a revamp of our current GPQ system and reward pool (because screw farming mp). This thread is for people who want to take an active part in hammering out possible rewards given by GPQ (from the reward stage, from the boss Ergoth, or from a possible shop that you can spend points in). I have been given the "okay" from staff and this thread will monitored by staff to provide feedback on the suggested rewards. I encourage you, as part of the playerbase, to suggest items that would be fun to see and be incentivizing for players both new and old. I will also be monitoring this thread on a daily basis to update the "Denied" list and "Possible Rewards" list for ease of access (would be amazing for ya'll to also include the item codes).

The Lists
The following things have either already been denied or are on the "Do not suggest list".
-Icogs
-Vote points
-Donor points
-Tinkerer sets
-Items that are readily available through other means (Maple admin boxes, sapphire boxes, shield scrolls, etc).
-Nodestones
-Arcane Symbols

-Innocence scrolls
-[2120000] Masked Gentleman's Medal of Honor (especially since we follow the GMS inner ability system now)
-Pet equips (we have pet equip scrolls available, but no pet equips..which I find odd)
-White/black cubes
-RP
-Specific damage skins
-Specific perm pets
-Mounts
-Ultra Power Player
-Trait consumables/potions
-Mesos
-Chairs (preferably specific GPQ only ones, different chairs depending on clear times)
-NX (currency not items)
-Kaiser/Mech color changes
-Noblesse Skills (Guild -> Skills -> Noblesse Skills)
-LGR (keep it in there)
-Ghost Ship Exorcist Badge (Ways of obtaining additional ones, even though it's extremely easy to create a new character to obtain)
-Pocket Items (Possibly BiS?)
-Miraculous Chaos Scrolls (Various %)
-Chaos Scrolls of Goodness (Various %)
-Naricain Elixirs & Onyx Apples
-Fast Learners (Or EXP Coupons with a lower EXP rate than 1.5x)
-Nebulite Box (Assuming Nebs aren't removed, and in stacks of 10)
-Silver Bonus Potential Stamps
-Epic / Unique Potential Scrolls
-Spell Traces (Stacks of X amount)
-[01202181] Rabbit Totem
-[01202182] Hunting Dog Totem
-[01162016] RED Scarlet Handkerchief
-[01162026] Rabbit Foot
-[01162027] Hunting Dog Collar
-[01162028] Hog Tooth
- Crusader's Zeal Ring
-Murgoth Soul Shard (from boss kills)
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As a special section, I want to include further incentive for players of outstanding guilds looking for a more competitive avenue. This section is to provide possible rewards for guilds that are of the "Top 5" of Aries, as listed by the Honorable Rock NPC. Details of how the rewards will be distributed/will be available is still under discussion, but I would like to proceed in suggesting items that would be cool to see. If you have suggestions on how to distribute rewards, that would be appreciated as well.

-Medals for anviling
-A temporary guild buff that could provide drop rate, meso rate, and/or damage
-Character slot
-Flame pieces
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Special notes
Special note to staff:
When you deny something, please provide the reasoning behind it so we, as the playerbase, can adjust our suggestions accordingly.

Special note to players:
I would prefer that this thread remain as constructive and friendly as possible (don't flame pls). As a long time player of this server, this is my way of providing an easier transition in the current gear progression system in Aries for newer players as well as giving veteran players something worth doing. If you have further ideas please feel free to message me on discord to discuss or open a suggestion thread on the forums. (Also, screw MP).
 
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e900003

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Its my suggest item list: (might have more suggest item need post later)
Equip:
All Dragon equip/weapon (Lv. 110 useless Equip)
All Necromancer/Eclectic Armor/weapon (Lv. 120 useless Equip)
All Muspell Armor/weapon (Lv. 130 useless Equip)
All Pensalir Armor/weapon (Lv. 140 useless Equip)
(since we follow 5th job advancement starforce request, and so less selling those equip and some equip no have drop from mob/boss, so i suggest this)

Pet Scroll:
[02048800] Miracle Scroll for Pet equip. for ATT 50%
[02048801] Miracle Scroll for Pet equip. for M ATT 50%
(Monster Park have pet scroll, but not these pet scroll, and if want make not only Monster park, so i suggest this at GPQ reward stage, if pet equip add in GPQ reward)
 
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[02046978] Unleashed Scroll for One-Handed Weapon for ATT 50%
[02046979] Unleashed Scroll for One-Handed Weapon for Magic ATT 50%
[02047807] Unleashed Scroll for Two-Handed Weapon for ATT 50%
[02047915] Unleashed Armor Enhancement Scroll 50%
[02612013] Unleashed Scroll for Two-Handed Weapon for Magic ATT 50%
Bonuses of these scrolls seem like a mini-prime scroll, rather unlikely it'll be added.
 

e900003

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Bonuses of these scrolls seem like a mini-prime scroll, rather unlikely it'll be added.
so i have a suggest, add in reward stage or boss drop, but drop rate is so low...

and prime scroll have like "Unleashed Armor Enhancement Scroll"? this scroll is like for DA..
 
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Grumble

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Hopefully GPQ will get a revamp soon but in the meantime I have a few more suggestions. Add 10% scrolls such as soul shooter and others to the rewards stage at a low rate as the only other way to get those are by mob drop. Crafting stuff like primal essence philosopher stones and maybe GSE would also be nice with the (hopefully) coming 25* meister equips being more useful.
 

Poro

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Hopefully GPQ will get a revamp soon but in the meantime I have a few more suggestions. Add 10% scrolls such as soul shooter and others to the rewards stage at a low rate as the only other way to get those are by mob drop. Crafting stuff like primal essence philosopher stones and maybe GSE would also be nice with the (hopefully) coming 25* meister equips being more useful.
No real point for the crafting items to be added when there's already easy ways to obtain them.
 

Grumble

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My bad there must have been a misunderstanding I wasn’t suggesting everything be put in just bringing up some options to choose from for the admin team. Basically I just want any revamp of some kind to happen so GPQ seems more worth to run.
 

Alex

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Hi All,

With the recent drop of price of the LGR (due to lingering / suspicions of 25*'s coming soon) GPQ has become even more unfavorable to do now. In my personal opinion I think it would be extremely nice for a GPQ Reward Revamp to happen as soon as possible to make GPQ at least somewhat favorable again.
 

Grumble

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Is there anything we as players can do to help with the GPQ Revamp or speed up the process? Or could we get some feedback as to what seems viable to add or not to add. I understand that there’s are more pressing bugs and updates happening but it would also be nice to dedicate some time to revamping a part of maplestory that quite a few people have shown interest in. Along with potentially helping to mitigate the overwhelming grasp farming Monster Park has on meso making.
 
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Gina

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I haven't added much to this discussion as I haven't been able to think of additional rewards that would be good to add other than the ones listed above, but I'd like to agree with adding the Scroll for Soul Shooter for ATT 10% (02042202) as well as similar ATT 10% scrolls for other classes, such as Scroll for Dagger for ATT 10% (02043302) / Scroll for Katara for ATT 10% (02043402) and Scroll for Wand for Magic Attack 10% (02043702) / Scroll for Staff for Magic Attack 10% (02043802). Possibly the STR scrolls as well such as spear, 1H sword, etc. but those are easily obtainable, compared to the others, so they wouldn't have to necessarily be considered.

I also second having a specific damage skin that could be gained from GPQ (possibly at a very low rate), similar to how you can get a damage skin from KPQ (although it's also available in the PQ shop).

The only other thing I could think of adding to the list is PQ points? As GPQ is a PQ after all. A decent GPQ run from my experience should take 10~15 minutes per run, so 4~6 GPQ runs could equal (or be slightly less than) the amount of points from one FPQ run, which should be 45k~50k points if I remember correctly. Yes, technically you can only do FPQ once a day, while GPQ is limitless, but that's per character and people run FPQ on multiple characters per day anyways. If possible, a limit could be added, like the first 5 players or so to talk to the NPC to leave, so that the entire guild doesn't join just to leech.

Lastly... guild contribution?

(I have bad memory though so if the last two suggestions are already a thing, feel free to ignore me.)

I would also like to know if there is anything we can do as players, as I'd be willing to help out wherever possible.

TL;DR: 10% ATT scrolls, PQ points, guild contribution, and let us know if there's anything we can do!
 

Grumble

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I’d like a bit of clarification on what readily available means. I’d say basically everything on the possible rewards list can be gotten elsewhere besides the totems, pet equips, and cosmetics right?
 

Gina

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Probably best to read the Do Not Suggest list, though the damage skin and contribution points would be nice.

I meant possibly adding damage skins that aren't obtainable elsewhere, like how PQs and Ursus have their own damage skins (although Ursus is bugged atm). 'Specific damage skins' was under the 'Possibly rewards list' so I thought I would bring it up.

As far as I know, contribution isn't readily obtainable especially after hitting level 250, as the only way to obtain it is to be online, which gives 20 contribution per hour. I tested it with Flag Race too to see if it would give any contribution, but nothing was added. If that is considered readily obtainable though, I don't think there's anything else that we could suggest except for items not added to the server currently.

Thank you for the feedback though, I'm glad to see the thread getting any sort of activity!
 

Hene

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I probably could've worded that better. I meant i was in favour of the damage skins and contribution and against the other such suggestions such as pq points and the scrolls.

I’d like a bit of clarification on what readily available means. I’d say basically everything on the possible rewards list can be gotten elsewhere besides the totems, pet equips, and cosmetics right?
Basically, there's a tiny list at the top of the post that will give you a generally idea of what shouldn't be suggested. Things in that ballpark.
 

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I was going to suggest a bunch of items, but I realized these two were the main items that I feel could really be nice (and unique) rewards from GPQ.

crusaders-zeal-ring.pngCrusader's Zeal Ring: Old silent crusade reward ring that grants 2% extra exp while killing (I have this in GMS haha). This would take up a ring slot (so you need to sacrifice some range for the exp) and it could be made to be temporary if it is felt that this is in some way over powered.

Use_Soul_Shard.pngUse_Murgoth_Soul.pngMurgoth Soul Shards: Ergoth is the boss in GPQ but Murgoth is essentially a carbon copy of him design wise (I guess you can say they're cousins.) Murgoth souls were only available in a limited time event in GMS. They are of the best tier and the advantage to them is that all versions have a summoning skill as opposed to the other souls who only have summons in their mag versions
 

Alex

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Obligatory after a few months post:

I really do think it is extremely important that we do update something such as GPQ now (adding items, editing rates of obtaining items etc).
The market is the worst it has ever been with MP Boxes @ 600m , Stamps at 1b, Inno's at 1b there needs to be other methods of obtaining these items to make them more available and to rebalance the market.

GPQ is one of these PQs that can help with it. It was (and still is) an extremely popular party quest that members would do if there were better rewards. I'd request the staff members of Aries to take some notice of the current state of the economy and consider updating this ASAP to help with the economy strain. It is getting harder and harder for new players to start on the server due to insane prices and outrageous demands.

Again, please consider putting this thread to use soon and updating accordingly.
 

Inn

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(Not related to main thread)

The market is the worst it has ever been with MP Boxes @ 600m , Stamps at 1b, Inno's at 1b there needs to be other methods of obtaining these items to make them more available and to rebalance the market.
While adding additional sources of these items would help, I believe this would not impact their value much. The prices of items are closely connected to the price of DP and other basic commodities, and unfortunately, unless everyone decides to set their prices lower as a union (impossible because of greed and self-interest), prices will not stop increasing at an exponential rate. A 10-20% increase of the DP rate today is equivalent to a 100% increase of DP just several months ago. If you want to do something about the state of the economy, something drastic and heavy-handed needs to happen, like readjusting DP costs, manually removing meso from the system, or a massive influx of all goods and DP. (Which we all know won't happen.)