Bonus potential scroll 70%

Snoway

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israel
#1
My suggestion is to remove the chance of booming your item on fail from bonus potential 70% scrolls
Gms already did that 1-2y ago (to all servers)

The bpot cubes alreay expensive enughe + the stamps for 3 lines bpot,
This server is up to date with the gms version it would be nice if we can have this scroll alreay update too.
Thank you
 
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Satou

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#2
agree. This insertion of boom chance. it is juz less favourable to the extent that players will rather go for the 100% bpot scroll and ignore the 70%. In essence, the 70% is viewed to be not existent.
 

Bruce

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Jul 19, 2018
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#3
It's not a chance, your equip just boom if the scroll fail and that is the only reason 70% Bpot scroll is that cheap in this server (25k nx in CS). Now if the boom was removed and its price was scaled up to 122.5k nx (70% x 175k nx) would you do it?
 

Snoway

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israel
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It's not a chance, your equip just boom if the scroll fail and that is the only reason 70% Bpot scroll is that cheap in this server (25k nx in CS). Now if the boom was removed and its price was scaled up to 122.5k nx (70% x 175k nx) would you do it?
bpot creating is not suppose to be the expensive part of bpoting in general ... the expensive part is to throw around 100-600 bpot cubes for good bpot wich cost 450m+ for ea stack and the stamps wich cost almost 300m for ea line you add

means that even without the scroll only the proccess of getting 3lines with good bpots will cost around 700m up to 10b or even more per 1 item in total!!! depends on your luck...

its a privet server creating 1 basic rare or epic lane of bpot shoueld not cost u so much NX becuse the impact on the stats is very minimal
i see no reason to make it harder to archive even harder then the global server

so this is my point of view and this is my suggestion
 

Snoway

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israel
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There's already the no risk 175k nx scroll which isn't anywhere near as bad as the cost to cube the item. I just don't see a real need for this.
as you know bpot cubes are expensive
not everyone can afford buying them
but somthims you find some , or u buy some with the coins u got,,,,
so u have 20bpot cubes in your inventory and you want to test your luck! even if you gonna do it with 1 line of bpot,
175knx as a opening point to start using the cube is a big deal for unfounded players or social players or just players that play casualy,
make bpot creating more accssable to all the players and leave the expensive part of acctualy get good bpots to the founded players.
you maybe think that its nothing, but for me and im sure that for a lot more players its will be a huge relif
thank you

(remove the boom from 70% or lower the 100% scroll price will be fine as well)
 
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Hene

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#7
as you know bpot cubes are expensive
not everyone can afford buying them
but somthims you find some , or u buy some with the coins u got,,,,
so u have 20bpot cubes in your inventory and you want to test your luck! even if you gonna do it with 1 line of bpot,
175knx as a opening point to start using the cube is a big deal for unfounded players or social players or just players that play casualy,
make bpot creating more accssable to all the players and leave the expensive part of acctualy get good bpots to the founded players.
you maybe think that its nothing, but for me and im sure that for a lot more players its will be a huge relif
thank you

(remove the boom from 70% or lower the 100% scroll price will be fine as well)
Just because something is semi-expensive doesn't make that necessarily a bad thing. Of course new players wont be able to cube right away, but that's sort of the point. Even if the price was lowered, the barrier to entry still exists in the way of bpot cubes and the stamps as you mentioned previously so this really solves next to nothing. If a 175k nx scroll (which is probably around 100-130m meso) is too much, i don't see how you'd have the funds to cube and stamp your items.
 

Snoway

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israel
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and that exacly the point... "If a 175k nx scroll (which is probably around 100-130m meso) is too much, i don't see how you'd have the funds to cube and stamp your items."
in this case u can keep using the cubes u find or farmed from coins and cube just 1 line untill u find more cubes or you can afford buying them to go for 3 lines and better bpots.
well if bpot cubes and stamps are already expensive why wuld it be a problem to lower the scroll price? or removing the boom effect?
 
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Poro

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#9
and that exacly the point... "If a 175k nx scroll (which is probably around 100-130m meso) is too much, i don't see how you'd have the funds to cube and stamp your items."
in this case u can keep using the cubes u find or farmed from coins and cube just 1 line untill u find more cubes or you can afford buying them to go for 3 lines and better bpots.
well if bpot cubes and stamps are already expensive why wuld it be a problem to lower the scroll price? or removing the boom effect?
He's referring to how you are complaining 100-130m is too much for a scroll when 1 stack of cubes is ~350m and when stamps are 150m+. I don't see how you would actually have the funds to even cube if you consider the cost of the bpot scroll too expensive and agree with Hene in that respect. Bonus potential is ultimately one of the most expensive parts of a gear, if you're at the point where you think 175k nx is too expensive, you probably have better investments to make for upgrading especially when most the pieces of gear that is worth bpotting is generally similar or higher price than a 100% bpot scroll (some exceptions apply).
 

Snoway

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israel
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He's referring to how you are complaining 100-130m is too much for a scroll when 1 stack of cubes is ~350m and when stamps are 150m+. I don't see how you would actually have the funds to even cube if you consider the cost of the bpot scroll too expensive and agree with Hene in that respect. Bonus potential is ultimately one of the most expensive parts of a gear, if you're at the point where you think 175k nx is too expensive, you probably have better investments to make for upgrading especially when most the pieces of gear that is worth bpotting is generally similar or higher price than a 100% bpot scroll (some exceptions apply).
imagine a senerio that you are leveling ... u got a lvl 110 weapon and u look in your inventory and see that u have farmed 50 red cubes for example ... the feeling of the freedom to cube any item you want right away gives very fun aspect to the game,
ofc that if u want to get good pots you need to invest money but somthims just trying your luck with the cubes u've found is good enugh..
i know that bpots are expensive but i want my freedom to use the few bpot cubes ive found in my juerny
without the barrier of "now go farm 175k nx or start to spam smegs for ppls to ecxchange meso to nx with u" ...
the feeling of investing 175k just to use the cubes is just taking away the feel of flow and the freedom to use the cubes as u please

changeing the price or removing the option to boom items with 70% wont make "bpoting easyer or cheaper"
but it will defently give a casual players a better feel of flow and progression
even if they cubed 1 epic line of 50hp .

my english sucks so i cant get my point as i realy want to say it...
 
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Poro

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imagine a senerio that you are leveling ... u got a lvl 110 weapon and u look in your inventory and see that u have farmed 50 red cubes for example ... the feeling of the freedom to cube any item you want right away gives very fun aspect to the game,
ofc that if u want to get good pots you need to invest money but somthims just trying your luck with the cubes u've found is good enugh..
i know that bpots are expensive but i want my freedom to use the few bpot cubes ive found in my juerny
without the barrier of "now go farm 175k nx or start to spam smegs for ppls to ecxchange meso to nx with u" ...
the feeling of investing 175k just to use the cubes is just taking away the feel of flow and the freedom to use the cubes as u please

changeing the price or removing the option to boom items with 70% wont make "bpoting easyer or cheaper"
but it will defently give a casual players a better feel of flow and progression
even if they cubed 1 epic line of 50hp .

my english sucks so i cant get my point as i realy want to say it...
You're right, players have the freedom to cube any item. If you find that fun, then you surely wouldn't have an issue over risking the equipment to apply bonus potential in order to cube the item. I actually don't know where you get the "spam smega" part when there's literally 5-6 smegas every minute of people selling nx at 1:0.6-0.7. If nx was hard to obtain I would agree with you but with the plethora of nx on the server as well as the good exchange rate between nx to meso, I don't see your point. Players are not forced to invest 175k nx, they are given the option to risk with a 70% or 50%. The 100% bpot scroll is also an nx sink of which there is already very few and sorely needed. This suggestion does not benefit the economy in the long term regardless of your "feeling of freedom to cube" and should thus be denied in my opinion.
 

Snoway

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israel
#12
the most succssful games are the games who give theyer players the best feel of proggresion.

progreesion is not suppose to be a spike jump from point A to point B
its suppose to be much smoother
when u lvl u start with begginer gear then each 10-20 levels u get better gear untill u get end game gear
the game designed to give u the feel of proggression all the time
so u have items lvl 0 5 10 20 30 50 70 90 100 110 135 150 ...ect

bpot shoeuld be the same ,,,
stage 1: (not expensive)
you are poor with rare 1line bpot
and you throw in some bpot cubes from time to time
stage 2:(starting to be expensive)
you add 2 lines
stage3:(same as stage 2)
u start cubeing to legendery
and 9% of your main state is enugh
stage 4: (very expensive / rng)
you try to get at last 15%
stage 5: (very very very expnsive)
you try to max bpot of the item

but in our case the gap between - pots and bpots are way way too big
 
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Alex

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#13
You're supposed to be main potting all your items before you even come close to bpotting your items.

once all of your items are mainpotted and have at least 18% stat, getting the 175k NX / scroll shouldn't be a problem at all each scroll comes up to around 105m.

This honestly isn't a problem at all, everyone had to do it at one point and so do you.
 
Likes: Yeng
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#14
This is just unnecessary. Bpot is supposed to be difficult. Your arguments don't really make sense. You are advocating for no boom on 70% bpot scrolls citing pricing issues, yet 100% bpot scrolls are already cheap enough. I think getting an item to have a bpot is different than cubing the item for a decent bpot.