Best-in-Slot (BiS) Gear Setup for AriesMS

starboy46

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Great post! I'd like to point out this special case for Demon Avengers (DAs). Hope information below can do some help for this small small group T___T

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DA's output is mainly based on HP. For common pocket item of choice being the Holy Pbean Cup, some DAs will choose (Condensed Power Crystal + Black Bean Mark) instead of (Sweetwater Monocle + Tattoo). Because you will gain extra 5%HP from boss set effect. (Assuming same WATT gain from mchoas/cogs and same %HP from potential lines).

Unless -- the WATT gain from starring your Sweetwater overtakes the 5%HP.


(P.S.) You can only get the same max %HP on both Sweetwater gears and boss set gears mentioned above (12% per line). Unfortunately there's no 13%HP like other stats…

(P.P.S.) You have to use mchaos/cogs for the best outcome for both Sweetwater gears and boss set gears mentioned above. Super scrolls (aka. admin boxes) don't give hp on these gears…

(P.P.P.S.) B>36 hp mpot stuffs. F3
 

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Lmao shut up condensed crystal can’t even get 15 stars. You can just occult + mchaos the swtattoo. Only case acceptable is Blackbean since it can get 20*. 5% hp is nothing compared to 36 att gained alone from 18 starring a swt. Then there’s still 6 slot excluding occult (hammered) from the swt for you to scroll. You probably don’t even know Meister shoulder + Meister earring is bis for d.a (20% HP + 40att from Meister set). And you can still wear belt + x2 pend + ring for full superior Gollux effect.
 

Luscie

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Great post! I'd like to point out this special case for Demon Avengers (DAs). Hope information below can do some help for this small small group T___T

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DA's output is mainly based on HP. For common pocket item of choice being the Holy Pbean Cup, some DAs will choose (Condensed Power Crystal + Black Bean Mark) instead of (Sweetwater Monocle + Tattoo). Because you will gain extra 5%HP from boss set effect. (Assuming same WATT gain from mchoas/cogs and same %HP from potential lines).

Unless -- the WATT gain from starring your Sweetwater overtakes the 5%HP.


(P.S.) You can only get the same max %HP on both Sweetwater gears and boss set gears mentioned above (12% per line). Unfortunately there's no 13%HP like other stats…

(P.P.S.) You have to use mchaos/cogs for the best outcome for both Sweetwater gears and boss set gears mentioned above. Super scrolls (aka. admin boxes) don't give hp on these gears…

(P.P.P.S.) B>36 hp mpot stuffs. F3
you never use cogs, they are worse than ss except on gse on average. if yu want to risk it use mchaos or else ss.
 
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starboy46

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Oh well gd to know ty senpai DAs!

Just I don't know how available it is for Meister shoulder and whether it's worth it to sacrifice a 12* tyrant belt for the Gollux set effect
 

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Oh well gd to know ty senpai DAs!

Just I don't know how available it is for Meister shoulder and whether it's worth it to sacrifice a 12* tyrant belt for the Gollux set effect
Until Will come out. Meister Shoulder is better than Absolab Shoulder for DAs only.
But make sure you don't have any other Absolab gears, like gloves or weapon (just get better gloves and weapon first). Absolab set effect is way better than Meister.
 
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I've updated both the Best-in-Slot table on the forums, as well as the additional informations found in the Google Docs.

These include:
  • Added Non-Superior (Level 140-149) section on the Star Force Enhancement Table so players can have an easier time checking their Reinforced and Meister Ring stats.
  • Included Deimos Shield as a best-in-slot secondary for Shadower players (better than Dragon Khanjar).
  • Removed Superior Gollux Belt (22*) as a best-in-slot item since it is extremely unrealistic, even with Paragon Boxes, to achieve in AriesMS. I don't want to bait new players into thinking that eventually you'll be replacing your Tyrant Belt with a Superior Gollux Belt when that will NEVER happen.
  • Removed Alien Fragment Earring + Superior Gollux Belt combination as a best-in-slot for Mages since it's extremely unrealistic (see reason above).
 
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I've updated both the Best-in-Slot table on the forums, as well as the additional informations found in the Google Docs.

These include:
  • Added Non-Superior (Level 140-149) section on the Star Force Enhancement Table so players can have an easier time checking their Reinforced and Meister Ring stats.
  • Included Deimos Shield as a best-in-slot secondary for Shadower players (better than Dragon Khanjar).
  • Removed Superior Gollux Belt (22*) as a best-in-slot item since it is extremely unrealistic, even with Paragon Boxes, to achieve in AriesMS. I don't want to bait new players into thinking that eventually you'll be replacing your Tyrant Belt with a Superior Gollux Belt when that will NEVER happen.
  • Removed Alien Fragment Earring + Superior Gollux Belt combination as a best-in-slot for Mages since it's extremely unrealistic (see reason above).
hello. Can you also add 12 star tyrant compare arcane? It can help a lot for new player like me.
Really thanks
 

RaineSage

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hello. Can you also add 12 star tyrant compare arcane? It can help a lot for new player like me.
Really thanks
Have you tried clicking the link and doing any of the work yourself? I cannot believe you asked this question a few months ago and you couldn't bother with 5 minutes to figure it out yourself.
18* arcane, 17* if bossing, or 15* if using 5 set effect and counting the 30% bd and you only care about bossing.

Also I believe there is a small error in the guide. A 20* arc 4 set will barely beat out a 15* tyrant using 4th item as shoe.

Tyrant shoe gets 155 att 160 stat 15* no scrolling

Arc shoe gets 150 + 45 (5 additional slots over tyrant cape) = 195 stat at 20*, 89 att.

Additionally, arc equips get 1% extra line over tyrants so 6% = 12 att or so. Also the +40 att set effect gives it 141 effective attack.
35 stat = 14 att so the arc shoe is equivalent to 160 stat 155 att, essentially the same as the tyrant shoe at 20*

However 10% ied does make the difference here. People underestimate the 10% ied at 97% ied but it gives around 30 w att on a boss with 300 def.

On mobbing it may make less difference but for bossing a 19* 4th set effect is better than 15* tyrant. Additionally for bossing a 17* arc 5 set effect is about the same as 15* tyrants.
 
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jlk1993

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Have you tried clicking the link and doing any of the work yourself? I cannot believe you asked this question a few months ago and you couldn't bother with 5 minutes to figure it out yourself.
18* arcane, 17* if bossing, or 15* if using 5 set effect and counting the 30% bd and you only care about bossing.

Also I believe there is a small error in the guide. A 20* arc 4 set will barely beat out a 15* tyrant using 4th item as shoe.

Tyrant shoe gets 155 att 160 stat 15* no scrolling

Arc shoe gets 150 + 45 (5 additional slots over tyrant cape) = 195 stat at 20*, 89 att.

Additionally, arc equips get 1% extra line over tyrants so 6% = 12 att or so. Also the +40 att set effect gives it 141 effective attack.
35 stat = 14 att so the arc shoe is equivalent to 160 stat 155 att, essentially the same as the tyrant shoe at 20*

However 10% ied does make the difference here. People underestimate the 10% ied at 97% ied but it gives around 30 w att on a boss with 300 def.

On mobbing it may make less difference but for bossing a 19* 4th set effect is better than 15* tyrant. Additionally for bossing a 17* arc 5 set effect is about the same as 15* tyrants.
Of course I did math but I just dont know did I do it right or no. It’s nice to see other ppl’s opinion. That’s why I asked about if he can add 12* tyrant compare to arcane. Then I can checked out if I’m right.
And for set effect like WA and STAT is easy to calculate. But for ied and boss dmg I have no idea how to compare.
Maybe this is noob question for you but i think it can help new players if he add 12* compare

also I have some question too. If already have 98% ied do you still think 10% ied equal to 30 wa?
 

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Of course I did math but I just dont know did I do it right or no. It’s nice to see other ppl’s opinion. That’s why I asked about if he can add 12* tyrant compare to arcane. Then I can checked out if I’m right.
And for set effect like WA and STAT is easy to calculate. But for ied and boss dmg I have no idea how to compare.
Maybe this is noob question for you but i think it can help new players if he add 12* compare

also I have some question too. If already have 98% ied do you still think 10% ied equal to 30 wa?
That means on a 300 def boss at 98% ied it gives 20 wa if late game. I calculated the stats based on my current stats.
 

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The recent patch from GMS nerfed gollux set so that equipping two superior gollux pendants won't trigger the set effect anymore, and I have no idea whether this would be implemented in AriesMS.

If it does, for BiS, should I change tyrant belt to superior gollux one? And maybe have a well-scrolled sweetwater pendant for the second pendant slot?
 

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I've updated the Best-in-Slot table on the forums (for anyone who still cares):

These include:
  • Added Endless Terror (Ring) as it's better than both the Meister Ring or Solid Gollux Ring.
  • Added Source of Suffering (Pendant), as well as the comparison chart for it against second Superior Engraved Gollux Pendant for anybody who wants to see the exact stats (ignore 4-Set and 5-Set for now until Berserked and Magic Eyepatch gets released, assuming they ever do get released).