Aries is dying

Blacklostus

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Hello, I would like to address the current conditions of Aries. I began playing Aries roughly one summer ago and to be honest it wasn’t a pleasant one. I only played a week before calling quits. I recently decided to give Aries another shot only to notice the dire situation it is in now. After monitoring the economy over the days and its progression system, I had come to a conclusion. Aries is dying, it’s only a matter of time unless there are changes.





Signs:


-A fair amount of players selling their items for DP which are usually resold in third party sites like gamekiller


-The price of items is declining day by day. Ex- cubes, bpot, stamps, ss and etc


-There’re fewer players online


-Discord is inactive compared to other servers


-Forum is practical dead, there’re posts from months ago label as most recent. No one bothers to make guides anymore.





My issue of the server


-Too competitive, newbies aren’t granted incentives to continue. The older player will attempt to milk the most out of newbies. The server is unfriendly to newbies, forcing many to quit.


-The progression system is messed up. For players to reach end-game, the sheer amount of time and resources needed is insane. That is not even accounting the massive DP required to reach the true end game.


-MP as the most effective method of farming is seriously a pain in the ass. (Remember people came to have fun, not to have a nail hammered into their head)


-The economy is truly F**k up, too much currency in circulation.


-I felt the auction system itself is a problem. Prices are inflexible compared to the former free-market system.


-Lack of free hyper teleport rock, I mean literally every other private server provides access to this.


-The server lacks socialization, everyone is too busy farming to socialize. (Maplestory is a game where players socialize about their life)


-The majority of the Bosses are set too high for newbies to even defeat without putting in insane amounts of hours. The only shortcut to this is getting funded by other players(Unlikely to happen considering the environment) or purchasing DP exchange for funds.


-The server places a restriction on growth. (Ex-Rigged nebulite, the cost for bonus pot and violet cubes, lack of flames, donor-restricted item like heart, etc) Too many to list...


-I guess the biggest issue of this server is in the fact it’s trying to make a profit like GMS. Compared to most of the existing private servers, Aries is truly pay2win.





There’re many other comments I would like to make, perhaps recommending some corrections. But I doubt the owner cares, therefore I am not going to waste my time. I know my voice is insignificant, but I really hate to see a server with so much potential fall like this. I used to play on another private server before it shut down, to me it was the best private server. I wrote this, perhaps as a means to voice my anger. Thanks for bearing with me.


 

Sylveon

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As an experienced f2p player that has played Aries on and off across 3 years+, I'd like to give your some of my thoughts and rebuttals for a number of your statements:



Signs:


-A fair amount of players selling their items for DP which are usually resold in third party sites like gamekiller


-The price of items is declining day by day. Ex- cubes, bpot, stamps, ss and etc


-There’re fewer players online


-Discord is inactive compared to other servers


-Forum is practical dead, there’re posts from months ago label as most recent. No one bothers to make guides anymore.

Most of this is undeniable, but it is mostly caused by the fact that Aries doesn't release content/events aside from server updates as GMS updates to its latest version pretty much every year between May-October, or the fact that Aries is always understaffed. Here's also some insights about what's going on based off my experience:



1) Point 1 is undeniable; to make things worse most large sale RMT attempts occur outside of Aries discord. Every established game/server has this problem and there's nothing much that can be done with it even if staff is consistently thwarting RMT attempts.

2) Prices of 'stock' items are consistently declining because botters are consistently botting/hacking on the server in hopes of squeezing/milking dp off players for basic goods while there isn't enough players or more essentially whalers trying to buy off said stock. Abundance of stock + their want to make off with money by trying to rid of their stock is why you see a consistent dip in these prices in recent weeks. I can understand that this is why many people believes Aries is dying.

3) There's fewer online because of the lack of events in literately months. Watch the numbers spike back up to 1k+ the day Halloween event is released. That also said, sometime exactly this time last year, the server population was as low as 300 at peak time. Most experienced/long term players are aware of this lack of events on Aries during this time period and is infamously known as the "dead phase". As such, many players choose to focus on more important issues irl e.g. work/life/academics during this time period.

Oh, speaking of academics, most countries across the world are approaching their end-term examination, especially if their current academia are based off AUS or UK education systems. (Most AUS education systems are facing their exams right now as i type this until the next 2 weeks, whereas UK education systems are having their own end term exam starting early November)

4) & 5) Discord is dead because of above reason + the prevalence and recent emergence of other private servers. I can understand that people are curious and just wants to try them out.




Most of your stated issues can be rebutted based off the statements i've made above. Well, except for a few..




-Too competitive, newbies aren’t granted incentives to continue. The older player will attempt to milk the most out of newbies. The server is unfriendly to newbies, forcing many to quit.


-MP as the most effective method of farming is seriously a pain in the ass. (Remember people came to have fun, not to have a nail hammered into their head)


-The economy is truly F**k up, too much currency in circulation.
Mostly untrue. Almost 3 years ago Nodestone farming was better than MP, and to make it worse, it was RNG reliant + had an abysmal drop rate. Aries staff eventually understood that its not a good idea to limit players from switching jobs due to its abysmal drop rate and has since fixed the drop rate to current rates today. If I want to make fast money, I want it to be reliable as well, and not restricted to RNG drops.

There are also many other ways to progress for newbies in current economy more than ever in almost 1 year, as Aries had a hyperinflation whereby dp rates alone were 1:21. With current deflation, farming for mesos is also now actually a good idea, as it is possible to farm ~600m + maple leaves + old maple coins/new maple coins + nodes (with an actually acceptable drop rate) + NX per hour. This easily pays off one hour of pvac, and new players get mad gains by literately just farming mesos at good maps with high mob spawn rate.

If there really was too much currency in circulation, Aries will continue to inflate beyond 1:21. Enough said.




-The majority of the Bosses are set too high for newbies to even defeat without putting in insane amounts of hours. The only shortcut to this is getting funded by other players(Unlikely to happen considering the environment) or purchasing DP exchange for funds.
What is this, old school Maplestory? Without funding a lv100 mule can beat up nZak within 2minutes, and with 15k stats it is possible to down CRA and hellux solo. At ~30-45k stats you can beat up almost all bosses accessible, including nLucid and nWill.




-I felt the auction system itself is a problem. Prices are inflexible compared to the former free-market system.


-Lack of free hyper teleport rock, I mean literally every other private server provides access to this.


-The server lacks socialization, everyone is too busy farming to socialize. (Maplestory is a game where players socialize about their life)
I personally do not understand what you mean by the above... seems like a heavily opinionated/misinformed/biased statements at the moment, especially since I have never seen anyone complain about how AH works barring an unforeseeable AH wipe some time ago, the fact that we can quick move to many locations of importance in the server + ease and cheap prices of TP rocks from CS/ Miu Miu, and the fact that there's literately still some active guilds on Aries still mingling around with each other right now.


Sorry to hear that you have had some bad experiences on Aries. I hope some of my statements can help clear some air about your negative opinions about not just this game in general, but other online platforms as well.
 
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-Too competitive, newbies aren’t granted incentives to continue. The older player will attempt to milk the most out of newbies. The server is unfriendly to newbies, forcing many to quit.
i think you need understand how to play and read guide in this server, and this server is not unfriendly,
if this server is unfriendly, what is TMS and CMS?

-The progression system is messed up. For players to reach end-game, the sheer amount of time and resources needed is insane. That is not even accounting the massive DP required to reach the true end game.
you know what is End game?
you dont know hard to end game is common for all server (include real server)

-MP as the most effective method of farming is seriously a pain in the ass. (Remember people came to have fun, not to have a nail hammered into their head)
-The economy is truly F**k up, too much currency in circulation.
you can look commend #2 in this post.

-I felt the auction system itself is a problem. Prices are inflexible compared to the former free-market system.
why you not asking KMS leader? this system release long time since RED patch in KMS.

-Lack of free hyper teleport rock, I mean literally every other private server provides access to this.
First, you have quick move bottom in this server.
Second, hyper teleport rock can getting from RP shop.
so this is not issue since i have play another server until down in end of 2015/early of 2016.

-The majority of the Bosses are set too high for newbies to even defeat without putting in insane amounts of hours. The only shortcut to this is getting funded by other players(Unlikely to happen considering the environment) or purchasing DP exchange for funds.
i think you know this issue is Maplestory common issue?
if you dont know this issue, i think you dont said you have played Maplestory,
in KMS always have this issue since new boss release everytime,
and you can kill NLucid/Nwill when you f2p.

-The server lacks socialization, everyone is too busy farming to socialize. (Maplestory is a game where players socialize about their life)
First, you know what is f2p (free2play)?
Second, Maplestory always have this things, not only this server.
Third, you know KMS make old event with reskin since V patch? (include Glory event shop, Glory event shop is BlackMage event shop with reskin)

-The server places a restriction on growth. (Ex-Rigged nebulite, the cost for bonus pot and violet cubes, lack of flames, donor-restricted item like heart, etc) Too many to list...
First, I only +1 for flame, this server need revamp flame system, but dont know Aries will remove nebulite system like GMS since v196.
Second, if you not like this style, please going to TMS, because TMS is more broken then all maplestory when you p2w.

-I guess the biggest issue of this server is in the fact it’s trying to make a profit like GMS. Compared to most of the existing private servers, Aries is truly pay2win.
First, you can look commend #2 in this post.
Second, this server is f2p, not p2w,
i have play 3.5yrs in this server since server beta, so this is not p2w for sure.

Conclusion:
First, your comment is wrong, so you need more understand to this server.
Second, you know this server always need more event?
Third, this server need more event and revamp existing feature in now (example: Party Quest, GPQ)
 
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CptSpark

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I've been playing this server on and off for almost 3 years and would like to say that I agree with some of your points while disagree with others.

About the content: The server version is progressing with GMS so we always have new content, however there is almost no new custom content that would satisfy the player base needs.

About the progress: The huge amount of effort needed to reach endgame is justified because there are hardcore players + botters who just play and farm non stop,
so if end game was a bit easier to achieve then these people would monopoly the whole market and game, so even if at this point and difficulty this is what happening, imagine how worse it would have been if it was easier.
Cons: The server could definitely introduce new methods of progress that require mechanics and skills and not the braindead MP or mob farm, this way having certain skills over just investing lots of hours will benefit players and give them some motivation to get better at it, (for ex oz tower).

About the community, i agree with you, but this is something common to all maple and all online games - people became toxic, if someone says something dumb, silly or naïve, instead of pointing it out politely or just ignoring it, people "meme" them and put to shame as if they are judges of some kind.
Its a mushroom game we all play to get some relief from work/school and we not always concentrate or think too much, this for example has lead me to play solo for almost 90% of the time because I don't get along with that kind of players.
So this aspect has pretty much no hope unless all those keyboard warriors get their shit together and aim to form a healthy community, or if the administration include toxicity as a violation of TOS.
 
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LetalMs

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Alot the people cant play for a stupid bug in the pic reset probably we are missing the time and mney in this server when the GameMasterS dont give us some answer.. then is a reason for this server get out for ever!! 320 players online when it was 890 or 950 .. GL playing Bugstory
 

cye97

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I've been playing this server on and off for almost 3 years and would like to say that I agree with some of your points while disagree with others.

About the content: The server version is progressing with GMS so we always have new content, however there is almost no new custom content that would satisfy the player base needs.

About the progress: The huge amount of effort needed to reach endgame is justified because there are hardcore players + botters who just play and farm non stop,
so if end game was a bit easier to achieve then these people would monopoly the whole market and game, so even if at this point and difficulty this is what happening, imagine how worse it would have been if it was easier.
Cons: The server could definitely introduce new methods of progress that require mechanics and skills and not the braindead MP or mob farm, this way having certain skills over just investing lots of hours will benefit players and give them some motivation to get better at it, (for ex oz tower).

About the community, i agree with you, but this is something common to all maple and all online games - people became toxic, if someone says something dumb, silly or naïve, instead of pointing it out politely or just ignoring it, people "meme" them and put to shame as if they are judges of some kind.
Its a mushroom game we all play to get some relief from work/school and we not always concentrate or think too much, this for example has lead me to play solo for almost 90% of the time because I don't get along with that kind of players.
So this aspect has pretty much no hope unless all those keyboard warriors get their shit together and aim to form a healthy community, or if the administration include toxicity as a violation of TOS.
Aries used to be the most up to date server but as we can see even we're having v208 but we did not even have content past Will boss.

Also Aries has become mp stimulator and didn't even have any new content at all, events? I'm not an endgame 80k+ player yet I'm sitting at p50 doing pmc repetitive and meaningless lucid/will out there.

The point I want to bring up is that other than repetitive farming mp or afk there's nothing to do in Aries, can we have our next big thing updated and make Aries great again? I also understand coding is not easy but come on its been a year...
 

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There’re many other comments I would like to make, perhaps recommending some corrections. But I doubt the owner cares, therefore I am not going to waste my time.
Well it's pretty obvious the owners don't give a shit, so just quit Aries and move on with your life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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JarJarStinks

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Server first of all needs a big revision..

- As I've suggested before, we need monster park to be nerfed to maybe 500m/hour for the newbs

- Buff elite channel mobs stats A LOT and nerf NX gain from normal channels A LOT, make it so farming NX is viable only in elite channels, the lower enemy level, the lower the NX they give, the higher the level, the more they give. earning around 1.5b/hr max, this will be good for MID game

- Grinding should feel satisfying & rewarding in the sense that you feel accomplished for reaching certain levels, nerf EXP gain from normal channels, keep same exp for elite channels, with the before mentioned buff to Elite mob stats. OR, just make all channels normal mobs be "ELITE" requiring people to actually cube up at lower levels and gear up a bit as well (in both instances)

in my pesonal but 100% fact suggestion, make all channels elite would be better, with the aforementioned buffs. not necessary though, i guess

- Dojo bosses need to be buffed and Dojo itself needs earn players about 3.5b/hr max and be the farming method for end game players to earn steady mesos per hour after bossing (give them something fun to do) & make it logical.. I mean, by the time you're end game, you have boss gear to boss, AM I RIGHT ?

- allow party NX share from farming mobs like Elite channels mobs, this way the community will actually be around each other considering leeching DOES bring the community together in a good way whether you disagree or not. (IDC)

- also make it so in Dojo you can leech from whoever is killing, bringing me back to the whole "community together blah blah" (which I love btw) I love the whole leeching aspect

- Bossing will ALWAYS remain end game, keep it the way it is, daily bossing limits.

- We don't need or care about staying up-to-date with GMS at the current rate the server is updating, it takes time off important things people want. All we get from new versions is new cash items (fuck that)

- Update versions after awhile when there's big content updates to the official version, content that is relevant, aka content that you will actual implement via coding..

server needs a god damn wipe for this to work (inb4 losers : but omg d00d, I have duh r0und n3rdy glasses d00d, sell for 10,000$ US on ebay d00d!)

Ok ? i made it quite simple this time, the suggestion that help this boring server turn into a super fest. but in the end, again, for this to work, you need to wipe the server, worry not though, losers WILL complain, but who cares ? they will be back + way more players.

Remember guys, I am right & you are wrong, the only time you are right is if you agree with me. as per usual, I am un-watching this thread, as to not get notifications of new posts, I am simply uninterested in what the furious keyboard incels have to say about my 100% correct and accurate post.

You know who you are, Loser. 🤡

P.S this was quickly done, however if you are intelligent you probably get the gist of it. I'm sure the owner and coders are smart enough to balance everything else to accommodate this.

Now let me ask Staff and Owner 1 thing, are you EA ? or do you not care about what the community wants ? we are suffering playing this server, people don't want to only have 1 thing to do : farming monster park, its ass, can you believe the best way to earn mesos per hour can be done by a new player within 1-2 weeks ? effectively getting them to end game in about 2 months ? not 1-2 weeks & 2 months of actual play time, just a few hours a day...

inb4 loser be like "y u play duh serber if u r suffering br0!"
shut up loser, no one cares 🤣

they only care about me, just like your girlfriend 😂

CURRENT STATE OF SERVER :

1/3 of the community sits around jacking off to the thought that some sad individual is willing to suck their toes for nerdy glasses, while they "henehoe" in maps after daily bossing.

another 1/3 of the community is new players quickly getting to end game via monster park and then quitting with a repeating influx of new players replacing them, however it just keeps getting lower.

the last 1/3 of players are bots farming monster park and selling shit for $ and when they get banned, they just make a new character and get right back into it, cause you know... monster park is easy & IS end game currency


there's so much potential for this server, however I ask myself these next things, with reasoning as to why the owner doesn't take action :

- Coder sucks, can't even do these basic things that even 16 year old me could do back in the days when I had no experience what so ever in coding my own shitty servers source.

- Owner is happy with what he currently makes (money)

- Owner doesn't want to upset nexon by making a better alternative to the official game, to the point that half the population of GMS migrates here after you implement my 100% accurate & 100% godly suggestion that some incel toe sucker will disagree on because he sits at home in his own human litter box angrily typing with a backwards mentality because he/she is the 1% population that enjoys the current state of the server.. :geek:

- Owner doesn't give a fuck about what WE want.


Lol when you look at annoucements section on forum there's a thread called
"Acknowledgement on Auction House Listings "
why don't you acknowledge this Dic... JK,

seriously though, why don't you acknowledge that the community wants a big revision & the server is fucking boring, I played this server a few times throughout the years its been up & let me tell you, ITS ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME, people are ALWAYS complaining about the same thing! ITS BORING, there's nothing to do! ITS NOT FUN.

literally years ago people were complaining about monster park and how there's no progression. What makes us think the SADmins will do anything about it now ??? I CRII SO MUCH RIGHT NOW DOOD

& let's be honest, the few lingering people aren't playing for fun, they're playing for $, know what i'm sayin' dood



Last but not least, I speak on behalf of 99% of the community 👁👄👁
 
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Server first of all needs a big revision..

- As I've suggested before, we need monster park to be nerfed to maybe 500m/hour for the newbs

- Buff elite channel mobs stats A LOT and nerf NX gain from normal channels A LOT, make it so farming NX is viable only in elite channels, the lower enemy level, the lower the NX they give, the higher the level, the more they give. earning around 1.5b/hr, this will be good for MID game

- Grinding should feel satisfying & rewarding in the sense that you feel accomplished for reaching certain levels, nerf EXP gain from normal channels, keep same exp for elite channels, with the before mentioned buff to Elite mob stats. OR, just make all channels normal mobs be "ELITE" requiring people to actually cube up at lower levels and gear up a bit as well (in both instances)

in my pesonal but 100% fact suggestion, make all channels elite would be better, with the aforementioned buffs. not necessary though, i guess

- Dojo bosses need to be buffed and Dojo itself needs earn players about 3b/hr and be the farming method for end game players to earn steady mesos per hour after bossing (give them something fun to do) & make it logical.. I mean, by the time you're end game, you have boss gear to boss, AM I RIGHT ?

- I suggest moving end game scroll shiet to Mu Lung dojo shop, star force scrolls, super scrolls & shiet

- allow party NX share from farming mobs like Elite channels mobs, this way the community will actually be around each other considering leeching DOES bring the community together in a good way whether you disagree or not. (IDC)

- also make it so in Dojo you can leech from whoever is killing, bringing me back to the whole "community together blah blah" (which I love btw) I love the whole leeching aspect

- Bossing will ALWAYS remain end game, keep it the way it is, daily bossing limits.

- We don't need or care about staying up-to-date with GMS at the current rate the server is updating, it takes time off important things people want. All we get from new versions is new cash items (fuck that)

- Update versions after awhile when there's big content updates to the official version, content that is relevant, aka content that you will actual implement via coding..

server needs a god damn wipe for this to work (inb4 losers : but omg d00d, I have duh r0und n3rdy glasses d00d, sell for 10,000$ US on ebay d00d!)

Ok ? i made it quite simple this time, the suggestion that help this boring server turn into a super fest. but in the end, again, for this to work, you need to wipe the server, worry not though, losers WILL complain, but who cares ? they will be back + way more players.

Remember guys, I am right & you are wrong, the only time you are right is if you agree with me. as per usual, I am un-watching this thread, as to not get notifications of new posts, I am simply uninterested in what the furious keyboard incels have to say about my 100% correct and accurate post.

You know who you are, Loser. 🤡

P.S this was quickly done, however if you are intelligent you probably get the gist of it. I'm sure the owner and coders are smart enough to balance everything else to accommodate this.

Now let me ask Staff and Owner 1 thing, are you EA ? or do you not care about what the community wants ? we are suffering playing this server, people don't want to only have 1 thing to do : farming monster park, its ass, can you believe the best way to earn mesos per hour can be done by a new player within 1-2 weeks ? effectively getting them to end game in about 2 months ? not 1-2 weeks & 2 months of actual play time, just a few hours a day...

inb4 loser be like "y u play duh serber if u r suffering br0!"
shut up loser, no one cares 🤣

they only care about me, just like your girlfriend 😂

CURRENT STATE OF SERVER :

1/3 of the community sits around jacking off to the thought that some sad individual is willing to suck their toes for nerdy glasses, while they "henehoe" in maps after daily bossing.

another 1/3 of the community is new players quickly getting to end game via monster park and then quitting with a repeating influx of new players replacing them, however it just keeps getting lower.

the last 1/3 of players are bots farming monster park and selling shit for $ and when they get banned, they just make a new character and get right back into it, cause you know... monster park is easy & IS end game currency


there's so much potential for this server, however I ask myself these next things, with reasoning as to why the owner doesn't take action :

- Coder sucks, can't even do these basic things that even 16 year old me could do back in the days when I had no experience what so ever in coding my own shitty servers source.

- Owner is happy with what he currently makes (money)

- Owner doesn't want to upset nexon by making a better alternative to the official game, to the point that half the population of GMS migrates here after you implement my 100% accurate & 100% godly suggestion that some incel toe sucker will disagree on because he sits at home in his own human litter box angrily typing with a backwards mentality because he/she is the 1% population that enjoys the current state of the server.. :geek:

- Owner doesn't give a fuck about what WE want.


Lol when you look at annoucements section on forum there's a thread called
"Acknowledgement on Auction House Listings "
why don't you acknowledge this Dic... JK,
seriously though, why don't you acknowledge that the community wants a big revision.

Last but not least, I speak on behalf of 99% of the community 👁👄👁
I think you need thinking what is good suggestion for Aries,
and your suggestion is from that shit wipe server,
please not always suggestion those things from that shit wipe server,
its cant apply since this is GMS-like server, not RMZ server ok?

First, Why you want keep suggestion change Dojo boss self,
Dojo boss already change by nexon,
then KMS change Dojo to 80 floor cap, and Aries have fixed Dojo system to GMS-like in now,
why you not suggestion to revamp dojo shop?
Dojo is solo quest not party quest since Nexon revamp Dojo,
please dont always try suggestion for add leech things in Dojo,
and Dojo need revamp things is Dojo shop, not boss and system self.

Second, whats different for your suggestion,
move super scroll/starforce super scroll things to Dojo is same as Monster Park things.

Third, change mob exp is wz edit + server rate change,
is in DO-NOT-suggest post things.

Forth, mob in elite channel already have more hp/exp then normal channel,
and NX gain already have 2x then normal channel, whats your problem?

Fifth, why you think server wipe is good way,
server wipe is always shit things and not good way,
and its already denied in past.

Sixth, don't impose self-righteous ideas on this server,
this is not that shit wipe server.

About my suggestion, average reward things for Monster Park, Party Quest, and Dojo is best for Aries.
1. Monster Park coin drop rate change to not affect by drop rate %, but Monster Park coin drop rate will looking how many for party member.
2. Add @forceloot command in Monster Park, you can get notice map have Monster Park coin not pick when you trying enter next stage.
3. Add Super scroll/Starforce Super scroll in other side, it will no longer always only Monster Park is good farming things, but dont know my suggestion for this list can approved. (Example. Add to Party Quest shop and Dojo shop)
4. Remove limit enter times to all PQ, but have some thing need change after removal limit times.
5. Add a chance getting 2x Dojo point when you clear 1 floor.
6. Increase Dojo point after F41 when clear.
7. Add Daily reward like KPQ/OPQ in Dojo when timer up or clear all floor.
8. Some Party Quest suggestion in this post.
 
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