Arcane Symbol transfer

[wengcx99]

Hi GMs and fellow AMSers, I really insist arcane symbols can be transferred through accounts. For a person like me who has 730 arc in my main character (not even enough for Will), is just impossible to start up a new character with the same stat which I would like to play. Without arc power in my new main, I could not even do lucid with my team. Is just a dead feeling inside that I have to keep going with my old main and I do think that is not a great experience for our veteran AMSers

No one has time to grind though all that daily quest for just a new character and thus I really would appreciate GMs to let us to transfer those precious arc power within our account. Thanks guys.

 

[e900003]

i think your mean is "arcane catalyst" item,
+1 for this item, but need add legion shop or can add to some event at future.

 

[wengcx99]

i think your mean is "arcane catalyst" item,
+1 for this item, but need add legion shop or can add to some event at future.

Hi there, I never knew there is an item specifically for transferring arcane symbol, nonetheless there is no reason for GMs not to make it legit.

 

[KamiAzuma]

Because the item does not exist yet in GMS. I also suggested to make them tradeable he need just let them be account transferable.

 

[Poro]

Because the item does not exist yet in GMS. I also suggested to make them tradeable he need just let them be account transferable.

As stated before on your other thread this is false, it has been in the game since Vcare has been released. I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that the item does not exist yet in GMS despite your constant insistence that you play GMS and know GMS ongoings well.

Spoiler: Vcare Patch notes

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/31834/v-196-ark-patch-notes#vcare

 

[KamiAzuma]

As stated before on your other thread this is false, it has been in the game since Vcare has been released. I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that the item does not exist yet in GMS despite your constant insistence that you play GMS and know GMS ongoings well.

Spoiler: Vcare Patch notes

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/31834/v-196-ark-patch-notes#vcare

That item is shit and not what is being asked for. You lose xp every time you use it, 20% of it to be exact. I said they need to be tradeable within the account and that doesn't exist. Also costs an insane amount of money every time as they go to level 1 and you have to upgrade paying the fees.

 

[Donut]

That item is shit and not what is being asked for. You lose xp every time you use it, 20% of it to be exact. I said they need to be tradeable within the account and that doesn't exist. Also costs an insane amount of money every time as they go to level 1 and you have to upgrade paying the fees.

How many times are you transferring symbols realistically? If I understand correctly, a 20% penalty is not that crazy (for example, a level 20 symbol becomes a level 18 symbol that is halfway to level 19). The way I see it the loss in exp and meso requirement is an adequate price for switching mains. Just asking to be able to transfer symbols freely with no penalties/price seems a bit silly to me.

 

[Poro]

I said they need to be tradeable within the account and that doesn't exist.

Because the item does not exist yet in GMS.

Just going to point out that is not what you said. Also, having something like that for free is dumb, the penalty is not even all that large and having another source for a meso sink would not hurt the server, all you are arguing for yet again is to have something be easily and cheaply done because its not convenient for you otherwise.

 

[KamiAzuma]

Just going to point out that is not what you said. Also, having something like that for free is dumb, the penalty is not even all that large and having another source for a meso sink would not hurt the server, all you are arguing for yet again is to have something be easily and cheaply done because its not convenient for you otherwise.

We don't pay a penalty for transferring our gear to an alt do we? What if we want to farm on one character because its far superior and boss on another? We should have to pay several bill and wait a month to get it back to level 20? Make us use a psok to xsfer it like we do with ALL of our other gear this isn't a hard concept.

 

[Eki]

We don't pay a penalty for transferring our gear to an alt do we? What if we want to farm on one character because its far superior and boss on another? We should have to pay several bill and wait a month to get it back to level 20? Make us use a psok to xsfer it like we do with ALL of our other gear this isn't a hard concept.

You do pay a penalty though, you have to spend NX and meso to transfer your gear to an alternative character. Poro is correct, you just don't like that it can't be done cheap and easily, and this is the same concept just you have to pay more meso and you lose 20% of your Arcane Symbol. GMS was not designed to have a character for bossing and a character for farming, therefore they make it a "large" penalty for transferring Arcane Symbols. Furthermore this feature is not implemented into the server yet so no one knows exactly how it'll work, just a general idea of how it'll work if they follow the way GMS does it.

 

[Jion]

I’d personally also like to see this implemented, it’d make switching mains loads easier. It’s already a pain we have to buy new nodes every time, but that can’t be helped. At least this will diminish the time sink required to max your symbols if you reroll.

Is there a reason (besides it needing to be coded in) for the staff to have held off on adding it in?

 

[wengcx99]

I’d personally also like to see this implemented, it’d make switching mains loads easier. It’s already a pain we have to buy new nodes every time, but that can’t be helped. At least this will diminish the time sink required to max your symbols if you reroll.

Is there a reason (besides it needing to be coded in) for the staff to have held off on adding it in?

Hi there, I reckon the only thing which holding them back is to be able to farm arcane symbols with different characters, I have several suggestions for this problem:
1. Introduce a penalty system as people stated above.
2. One account can only farm one type of stat per day, eg: hayato did daily quest already but demon slayer cannot do daily at the same day.
3. Cost a insane amount of mesos to transfer, eg: 5-10B (TBH I think this is the best solution because it is a end game feature it must cost a limb to transfer arc symbols)
4. One account can only do one round of daily quest per day.

 

[Jion]

Hi there, I reckon the only thing which holding them back is to be able to farm arcane symbols with different characters, I have several suggestions for this problem:
1. Introduce a penalty system as people stated above.
2. One account can only farm one type of stat per day, eg: hayato did daily quest already but demon slayer cannot do daily at the same day.
3. Cost a insane amount of mesos to transfer, eg: 5-10B (TBH I think this is the best solution because it is a end game feature it must cost a limb to transfer arc symbols)
4. One account can only do one round of daily quest per day.

I was wondering this as well. My idea is to implement a penalty system like you mentioned, with escalating fees like with name changes. Ex. The first transfer to a character is 5b. The second transfer to the same character is 10b. Third is 15b, etc etc.

I think number four would work the best with the least amount of complex fees, though.

 

[Poro]

2. One account can only farm one type of stat per day, eg: hayato did daily quest already but demon slayer cannot do daily at the same day.

This is actually unnecessary as the Arcane Catalyst will not let you unseal on a character unless you destroy all symbols of that type on that character. (i.e. if you have a level 2 VJ symbol and want to transfer your Catalyst level 15 symbol, you MUST remove ALL vanishing journey symbols on the receiving character in order to unlock).

 

[wengcx99]

I was wondering this as well. My idea is to implement a penalty system like you mentioned, with escalating fees like with name changes. Ex. The first transfer to a character is 5b. The second transfer to the same character is 10b. Third is 15b, etc etc.

I think number four would work the best with the least amount of complex fees, though.

I reckon your way is better than just straight 5B.

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This is actually unnecessary as the Arcane Catalyst will not let you unseal on a character unless you destroy all symbols of that type on that character. (i.e. if you have a level 2 VJ symbol and want to transfer your Catalyst level 15 symbol, you MUST remove ALL vanishing journey symbols on the receiving character in order to unlock).

I still did not get what does arcane catalyst do, could you please tell me the exact function?

 

[Poro]

I reckon your way is better than just straight 5B.

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I still did not get what does arcane catalyst do, could you please tell me the exact function?

This means when you revert the unstable symbol (which was made via the catalyst on your other char), the character you are reverting it on must have no symbols of that type and also have had the quests completed (All arcane symbols except the nameless symbol can be dropped). Because of this, there is no way to abuse catalyst via farming dailies on another character since you will never be able to unlock the other unstable symbol as long as you have a normal symbol of that type in your inventory.

 

[wengcx99]

This means when you revert the unstable symbol (which was made via the catalyst on your other char), the character you are reverting it on must have no symbols of that type and also have had the quests completed (All arcane symbols except the nameless symbol can be dropped). Because of this, there is no way to abuse catalyst via farming dailies on another character since you will never be able to unlock the other unstable symbol as long as you have a normal symbol of that type in your inventory.

Ohhhh that makes so much sense, I reckon GM might be working toward it right now.

 

[Poro]

Ohhhh that makes so much sense, I reckon GM might be working toward it right now.

My guess is one of the reasons it hasn't been added yet is that the staff are trying to place the item in an appropriate shop/location since the source of it in GMS is from legion shop which we do not have on Aries. Other than that, just coding the requirements and various other features would be my other guess (I mean, Vcare daily skips aren't even fully coded yet).

 

[wengcx99]

My guess is one of the reasons it hasn't been added yet is that the staff are trying to place the item in an appropriate shop/location since the source of it in GMS is from legion shop which we do not have on Aries. Other than that, just coding the requirements and various other features would be my other guess (I mean, Vcare daily skips aren't even fully coded yet).

The reason is that they wanna keep the game as original as GMS therefore coding the original content costs them time.

 

[Spyro]

That item is shit and not what is being asked for. You lose xp every time you use it, 20% of it to be exact. I said they need to be tradeable within the account and that doesn't exist. Also costs an insane amount of money every time as they go to level 1 and you have to upgrade paying the fees.

We have plans for the catalyst, and aren't accepting any suggestions.

We also have no intentions to change the nature of symbols without an actual function (listed above).